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Thanks David, yes I was thinking the same, using .z.pw to basically do what I imagine -u is doing 7nder the hood. I just didn’t want to be writing the logic for comparing the users plain text password. Currently with -u, it has the advantage that the logic which does that comparison is inaccessible, so it’s a bit more secure. But if there is no way to overwrite the -33! then defining a .z.pw is the only way to go.